Mate, I’m a 5 foot tall girl. Of course not. If ordering from the Internet, the customer comments are most helpful. The sleeves are usually 1/2 an inch too short still with the shirt length a little long, but a Large Tall is just way too baggy and long, even slims (although the shoulders on a large probably fit slightly better, in general a Medium Tall fits better overall). dont make a big deal out of it. Modest-height and fat – that’s the American model. I can get on board with a good ‘tailored’ look, and even super slim jeans (on the right body type). However, its sizes still seem to plateau at a size 16/18. It’s not easy out there for us short folks lol. Fit models – both male and female, are aliens. And appear super-baggy on real people as well. Many times I see in the model pictures the shirt they are wearing is long sleeved and they have the sleeves rolled up. I love to read that the sleeves are too short when ordering a shirt for my husband and that the sleeves are too long when ordering for myself. Sounds like Mediums would fit you really well if you were a couple if inches shorter. And we’re not going to lie—it wasn’t easy! You can get prime and do their wardrobe feature where you don’t get charged unless you decide it fits. I’d recommend either ordering multiple sizes or just going into the shop to try on the garments!”, Stephanie Yeboah, Style Blogger and Writer, “Zara seems to be one of the only remaining stores on the British high street that refuses to cater for its plus-size fans. I think they're very true to size whereas in Zara I often find their clothes to be a bit on the big side, especially Zara Woman. I buy tall sizes for my tall kid. It’s all a matter of designer preference. We – short men – are being overlooked by the clothing industry. The fashion industry definitely seems to believe that the world is made up of petite women and tall, stocky men. you can still be hot and a size 12 or 14, ya know. Place clothing on a flat surface, then measure the dimensions according to the table below. I like that graph he has too, in all red the shorter sizes are labeled “very few options” then it goes over to the 6’3 – 6’5 area which don’t even get a bar there are so few options and it says in yellow “some options” like it has more than the short guys. Here’s to everyone finding clothes that make them feel good, whether tall or short or skinny or fat. So why are all these 6’2″ models wearing medium sized shirts? If there’s an excess of L, XL and XXL, why make the same quantity year after year? I wear an L, very seldom M and very seldom XL. * Measurements shown in the size guide refer to foot length, not shoe size. I firmly believe this is because if they rolled them down they would be ridiculously short. There are many plus-size consumers who have expressed their sadness over Zara not catering to them, and frankly, it’s such a huge shame.”, Sara Brown, Influencer and Fashion Designer, “When shopping in Zara, I have started seeing a few more items available in bigger sizes—even going up to a size XXL. Both of my sons are both athletic and very skinny. As I’m looking through their already limited XL and XXL sizes I wonder, Do they really think this is the biggest size for a woman? Models shirts are custom tailored for models and don’t represent the real product. First, it would make no sense at all for clothing manufacturers to cater their clothes to an exceptional part of the population (taller men). This is especially tough with button ups to wear un-tucked. The other good news is the trend towards shorter jackets; if it wasn’t for that I’d find buying sport jackets that fit length-wise to be an impossibility. The problem is that rather than using curve/plus size models to support this 'campaign', Zara have used the same, slim models they use in every single one of their campaigns. I would probably look into other clothes that they sell if I could actually find their official site. This is actially easy to explain: because the labeled size of clothing is based on chest girth rather than height. when I graduated. Designers hire models to fit the clothes they've made for their collections; they don't usually make the clothes to fit the model. However, size Large fits me like a muumuu, much too wide. the fit for that was again pretty much perfect, but it cost $90. I have purchased 5″ inseam shorts from LL Bean and they are just right for him. In the meantime, support the brands I mentioned above, and if you need to vent, please do so in the comments section below. Some are just sized as if they’re for a much fatter man than I am. Except…the average 5’9″ American man is anything BUT healthy – instead, the average American man, at 5’9″ or so, weighs about 30 lbs more than he should at that height. fast fashion brands are shit anyway. I have purchased some clothing from Peter Manning and been very happy with the fit, though some of the styles are a little too “New England” for me. Nope. O.G. There is also a Shoe company in my area, and in most area of the country called SAS. Its ridiculous… The US population is so fat its crazy to have stick figure models wear a medium. He’s nowhere near a representative sample of the human male form. I’m preaching to the choir, but yes, I’m also incredibly frustrated by the lack of decent looking smart casual and dress clothing for smaller men, and the radically varying sizing between companies/brands. I just wanted to point out that as a 6’2 lean male (similar dimensions to the pictures), I definitely don’t fall into the ‘ton of options’ category in reality. Order multiple brands, multiple sizes. I try out new brands all the time. However, I do think my number one tip would be to try stuff on (which I know contradicts what I just said!). Also some stores make their clothes longer or shorter or slimmer or wider. I would comfortably fit into a size Medium if clothes were at all tailored for tall people. Could almost have worn it as a dress. So im 5’1 and live in the UK and I find it so difficult to find clothes that actually fit. We both wear size medium (including ll bean)…in fact, he wears some small shirts too I think. A couple of thoughts… first, despite the use of oddly sized models, I do believe, based on conversations with friends, that if you are a man in that 5’7′ to 5’10” range than you find plenty of stuff off the rack that fits you. Yet he looks pretty damn great in this “medium” shirt made by Hugo Boss. Doesn’t work if you need to buy the smallest size (S) to fit your shoulders, but it’s too tight everywhere else…. Do you feel my pain? Yeah its quite a pain. What kind of shirts are they? $88 shirts and $98 jeans are just not acceptable prices when “average” sizes are widely available for less than $30. It does harm someone’s self-esteem a little because what size exactly are we, shorties, supposed to wear then, according to their system? Because I know for certain that when 6″3 Hugo Boss is wearing a size M that It will be as tight as a sock on me. yeah those models may be wearing a medium but i guarantee they are clipped in the back then…and I still doubt they are a medium. With over 500 physical stores around the world, Zara has managed to always produce clothing that is spot-on trending. I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum. you need to be quick for these sizes. I hav not set foot in Zara again. And shorter gents have it worst. A while back I expressed my frustration with the clothing industry in this post: Why Does the Clothing Industry Hate Short Men? The solution is to always try on small and medium ( I don’t do tall since I am not overweight but I am tall). For now, I’m buying off-season clothes at sixty + sometimes 70% off and having them altered. Its sharp tailoring and minimalistic, neutral pieces have always stood out for me. I hate all these fashion "rules." I was 4’7″ 67 lbs when I started high school and 4’10” 84 lbs. I’m 5’6″ and about 130lbs slightly athletic build. It’s supposed to fit better, right? I am glad I found this site. I think we can all agree that fat women deserve to clothe themselves with dignity and respect, and we … I know that 'regular models' wear a size zero or maybe a 1 or a 2, but if a normal girl wishes to model, and she's got the looks, what size clothing do they wear? BR = skinniest, Gap = “more relaxed” and Old Navy = baggy. [In checking around it looks like for Fall 2003 they are back to tall and very thin - 5' 9 to 5'10", size 2 to 4 but I think they would love size 0. I take a XS in Uniqlo clothes and have pants shortened (a service which they offer for free!) I am just as boggled as you are when i see ‘6’2 model wears size medium’, because medium isn’t long enough in the hem or arm. I’m 5’1” and usually wear an S size (I’m 7 1/2 st but not exactly what you call “flat” around the chest and buttocks) and these descriptions can get so surreal, specially on Adidas and Reebok sites where the “models” are usually 5’11” or even up to 6’1” and always wear size S!! Please tell me that your line will be availabe internationally! They are designed for overweight people. Ever. Damn it I love my boobs. But people assume I should wear a larger size because of my height. But I guess it’s also good to ask why there’s such an impulse to spend money in a shop that so very clearly excludes plus-size women. The only time I noticed a huge difference was H&M. Even the international brands are all dump of tall Americans and Australians. 6’4″ and thinner. But the rest of my family is far taller than me, I don’t have many connections in Asia, and I’m absolutely shit at sewing. That just leads them to decide not to carry anything except the “core” median sizes. Crew) work out better for you? Diversity in the fashion industry is a subject under close scrutiny at the moment, and many of these conversations, quite rightly, revolve around better representation and further inclusivity of body diversity. Voted up! There’s a new website americantall.com and it is awesome for me! Although it definitely perplexes me why all these models are 6’2″ in the first place…, As someone that’s been in the menswear industry for 10 years as a designer, I’ll shine some light on this…. I argue the opposite appears to be occurring in this case, that this off the rack fashion hardly ever looks good on the model. It’s driving me up the bloody wall. For me best brand with smaller clothes is Gas Jeans, its very popular in Europe. While promoting her album in 2002, she told Billboard that she was "tired of being a skinny, white girl." Having a large tall or a xxxl hemmed up the sides leaves the neck hole and the sleeves hideously oversized. I hope these brands and the people behind them find all of the success they deserve. Try to buy a medium here for me and the item will never pass your elbows or reach your waist, if you are a tall.. born in Maine, female. SO, you run into shirts that are supposed to be a large or a medium that somehow seem to better fit men who are considerably larger (aside from the fat) than the men that SHOULD be fitting into those shirts. I do feel for you guys, brands only started making more Medium Tall options and only in select styles online only in the last 5 years. Tall people are also overlooked. There is a mentality that if you really wanted to wear … It’s the same crap we’ve been getting our whole lives for being short just magnified more so. This may have been mentioned before, but the issue is perhaps that these clothes are aimed at a young consumer base. I think you have to observe where the clothes are made and find the ones that best fit your frame. Ironically, I’ve found that my best option for a quality looking fit is going to Marshall’s or the thrift store. I did hear from these guys recently – https://www.purple-hat.co.uk/ – but haven’t tried them out yet (I think they were going to send a shirt…I’ll keep you updated if it arrives). Also, we may make up a minor segment of the population but there’s still a lot of us; too many for a business to ignore. Sizes for female fit models, for example, fall into roughly five categories: junior (that’s a small size 4), missy (a medium size 8), contemporary (a large size 10), plus (which varies but is usually around a size 14), and petite. Pretty much every shirt I try on is too short, ending at or just above my belt loops. Most of us still feel that way, and rightfully so! Don’t get me started on finding long enough pants without a huge waist. Just Google anything related to clothing for short men, and you’ll see all of the ads come up. At 150 I was still broader than these 6’2 models. The men in that state are sizeable. There’s often dozens of brands you can pull off the rack and try on. Seems like a short person could always buy the short sizes. My theory is that clothing retailers don’t make clothes that fit well on real people so that you keep buying more clothes in the hope that THIS ITEM might be the one that fits and doesn’t make you feel like you are unfit to go out in public (ok, being overly dramatic here, but you get what I mean)… My boyfriend is 6’3″ with a 33″ waist and 36″ chest, which would be easy to dress in theory (here’s the freak that fits all these shirts that you show) – except that his shoulders are 23″ from side to side. It’s just as much a nightmare trying to find things that fit properly for someone 5’8″ with a 48″ chest and a 10″ drop. Brand equity of Zara – Valued at $ 10.7 bn (May 2016 data) this fashion industry retail giant has bagged 53 rd position in Forbes list of world’s most valuable brands.. 04. 3. That’s why some brands you might be a size 32 in pants, others you might be a size 30. While size 4 jeans at American Eagle have a 26.5-inch waist, a size 4 waist is 26 inches at Old Navy and 27 inches at Abercrombie & Fitch. She went on to say that although she's Ecuadorian, she was being passed off as a blue-eyed white girl. If you like the shape of the fit but the sizing is too big or small, you can go up or down a size. But this means creating more SKUs and making fewer items of each variation, which increases costs. It was large that varied most widely when we checked. Ford is about 6’1″ or so, and in those days probably weighed about 190 so it IS a pretty good fit. If you go to Asian countries or eastern Europe the sizes make more sense – they fit more like they’re for a man who isn’t 30 lbs overweight. She looked at me fur a few seconds and said indignatly "we don't make clothes for people your size". I wear a size 4-6 dress, am 5'7"/5'8", and I wear a 28 x 33. Your email address will not be published. Size Large = 14 - 16 Their shoulders and hips should grow in proportion to their height. Their designs are original and ironically scream diversity, it’s just a shame their sizes are not aligned.”, Shop Curve-Friendly Zara Pieces, As Recommended By Our Experts, Up Next: 15 “Boring” Staples Every Fashion Editor Can’t Live Without, 5 Curve Models on What's Good and Bad in the "Plus Size" Fashion World, 17 Handbags No One Will Believe You Found on the High Street, 15 “Boring” Staples Every Fashion Editor Can’t Live Without. You have it all wrong, it’s the tall people they hate. Didn’t I hear that Mango shirts fit well? I’m certainly not outside of standard deviation. Josh | The Kentucky Gent A 4’11” guy would be swimming in that and have the chest pocket at the level of his navel. For button downs I once bought a shirt at a Chinese mall from GXG. Size Medium = 10 - 12. It also doesn’t help that I have a sizable chest (E cup). In fact, across all the different items I tried on in Zara that day, I fit sizes 8 to 14. Respectfully, I think you are mistaken. I’m almost 6’7 and don’t even fit on that chart. I especially love all the co-ords they’ve had in this summer, and quite a few of these have been in jersey or knit fabrics, so with the stretch, I have been able to fit into them. A shorter guy can get a shirt tailored down to fit him, but a brand that uses a shorter guy for a fit model doesn’t have this luxury. Zara jeans have long been a bit of a mystery to me. “I would say the best way to find stuff that fits you in Zara is to shop online or look in stores in European cities outside the UK. While many major clothiers go out of their way to cater to extra tall or large men, almost no one considers men who are shorter or smaller than average. According to Elle.com, the mass retailer does not participate in America's "vanity sizing" which allows us to fit into sizes that are smaller than our actual size. Plus-size models are simply promoting plus-size clothing. Iain, by email. They clearly know that they’re isolating a huge portion of the market, but they don’t seem to care. If you're talking UK sizing, I would assume a Size 10 is a Medium in Zara. You can’t “tailor a size up” using fabric that isn’t there. I think the sizing is mostly based on chest size and not height. I used to look at it askance myself, but then I did my own comparison (sizes, appearance) and find the info provided as credible. Looks like a $295 shirt from Rag & Bone won’t fit any better than a $39 shirt from ASOS. We shouldn’t have to work so hard!”, Imogen Lysandrou, Curve Model With Models 1, “I absolutely love Zara, but for me, their trousers are a no-go. They certainly look cool on the models and come at an attractive price, but I guess I just have my favorite denim brands and stick with them. That’s what the big & tall men and plus sized women did –and now you can’t go two feet without tripping over a specialty store for them. It’s just business. Have you tried the women’s clothing section? Scroll down to see what they said. I worked in retail for about 7 years, and from what I could tell, brick-and-mortar retailer buyers are petrified of over-inventory. It’s fucking nonsensical. Fortunately, blogs such as yours are turning the tide. and believe me, I’m the kind of person who gets away with wearing children’s clothes all the time. (Picture: Zara) Of course, you could just take your coat off and wear it on your lap, like this model. In addition, if you live in a small town, good luck in obtaining anything in your size. But back to the point. Pretty much every t-shirt and shirt either looks like he is wearing a tent or like it has shrunk in the wash. What one commenter above said is true – the guys in the photos tend to have pins and stitches put in for the photo to make it fit well. Even in a medium, I try to find the “slim fit” lines, where they are available. I can’t see why any company would do this in our capitalistic society. No doubt about it, frankly. The shirt arrived and of course I was absolutely swimming in it. Our society seems to think that women don't know how to do anything. Sharp and refind trumps tall and sloppy any day! However, its sizes still seem to plateau at a size 16/18. When you look at how quickly certain sizes sell out, surely fashion houses should twig that it may be worth stocking more of the product? I have never seen a retail clothing photo caption that listed anything besides a size M. I honestly think the captions are probably made up (predetermined by marketing people) and not at all factual about the model’s height and shirt size. Even when I try to compensate with a large in place of a medium, the shirt’s are still often too short?! However, as a size 20, these are still on the small side for me. The 6-footer wears a medium, because the neck of a large is loose, the shoulders sag, and the armpits flap. Sadly, as is so often the case with plus-size girls, I just look at the accessories, which I use to elevate the pieces I already own. I hear this advice all the time, but I think people vastly overestimate the effect bulking up can have on clothing fit (length, in particular). However, it’s a catch-22, because short men tend to shop less at brick-and-mortar because they never have our sizes, so it looks like we buy less. Brock, I’m very much in agreement with you here. 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